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buy_laptop_sans_windows [2021.12.04 16:11] – created Steve Isenberg | buy_laptop_sans_windows [2021.12.08 14:53] – [Can you buy a laptop and pay less if it doesn't have Windows?] Steve Isenberg | ||
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=====Can you buy a laptop and pay less if it doesn' | =====Can you buy a laptop and pay less if it doesn' | ||
+ | The goal is to buy a laptop that is powerful enough to perform video editing. | ||
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+ | Target Specs | ||
+ | |CPU|Intel i7 or AMD| | ||
+ | |Memory|16GB| | ||
+ | |Graphics card| | ||
+ | |Storage|512GB SSD| | ||
+ | |Display|FHD 1920x1080| | ||
+ | |OP System|None (plan to install Linux)| | ||
+ | |Price|Under $1000 actually closer to $600| | ||
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+ | |System|CPU|Memory|Graphics\\ Card|Disk\\ Storage|Display\\ Res|Op Sys|Cost| | ||
+ | |Dell XPS 13\\ [[https:// | ||
+ | |Microcenter\\ You Build Tower|i7-11700\\ 2.5GHz 8 Core|16GB|GTX-1650TUF 4GB|512GB SSD|FHD ext monitor|None|$1016.90| | ||
+ | |NUC Kits (from Intel)| not sold to individuals? | ||
+ | |Chromebook repurposed| | ||
+ | |Dell Alienware|Intel i7-11800H|16GB 3200MHz|Nvidia RTX 3060\\ 6GB GDDR6 Nvidia|512GB SSD|15.6" | ||
+ | |EmperorLinux.com|Prices start $1800, $2500 for 16GB 512GB(Toucan T470)||||||| | ||
+ | |[[https:// | ||
+ | |[[https:// | ||
+ | |Costco|Intel i7-1195G7|16GB|Iris Xe|512GB SSD|15.6" | ||
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+ | =====responses summarized being used for above research===== | ||
===David Lees=== | ===David Lees=== | ||
Dell has sold Linux laptops for a long time. For example they offer Ubuntu distribution on many of their machines as an explicitly Windows alternative. | Dell has sold Linux laptops for a long time. For example they offer Ubuntu distribution on many of their machines as an explicitly Windows alternative. | ||
- | * Unfortunately the Dell machine costs $60 to $240 //cheaper// if it comes with Windows instead of Linux! | + | * RESEARCH: |
Then there is the Chromebook world where all the machines are Linux to start. | Then there is the Chromebook world where all the machines are Linux to start. | ||
+ | * RESULTS OF RESEARCH: pending | ||
===Frank Gens=== | ===Frank Gens=== | ||
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They claim their custom built machines start at $150 (for pretty stripped down, I’m sure), so what you’re looking for (moderately high-end HW, no OS) may be competitively priced there. | They claim their custom built machines start at $150 (for pretty stripped down, I’m sure), so what you’re looking for (moderately high-end HW, no OS) may be competitively priced there. | ||
- | * RESULTS OF RESEARCH | + | * RESULTS OF RESEARCH: pending |
===Larry Wittig=== | ===Larry Wittig=== | ||
You could consider an Intel NUC kit. You can buy it as a kit (no memory, no storage) or as a complete PC. It comes w/o an operating system. You can pick a range of CPU's, and the graphics are generally integrated unless you buy the top of the range. I'm running Linux Mint 20.2. Bob Primak also has one. [[https:// | You could consider an Intel NUC kit. You can buy it as a kit (no memory, no storage) or as a complete PC. It comes w/o an operating system. You can pick a range of CPU's, and the graphics are generally integrated unless you buy the top of the range. I'm running Linux Mint 20.2. Bob Primak also has one. [[https:// | ||
- | * RESULTS OF RESEARCH: | + | * RESULTS OF RESEARCH: |
===Smita Desai=== | ===Smita Desai=== | ||
You can try Alienware from Dell. These are gaming machines. Not sure though if they come without Windows. | You can try Alienware from Dell. These are gaming machines. Not sure though if they come without Windows. | ||
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+ | * RESULTS OF RESEARCH: pending | ||
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+ | ===Will Roberts=== | ||
+ | This site may be of help: | ||
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+ | [[https:// | ||
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+ | Or maybe not. | ||
+ | * RESULTS OF RESEARCH: pending | ||
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+ | I just [20211204] talked to Liz deMarco who used to have a pretty nice Linux laptop called " | ||
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+ | She told me it came from [[https:// | ||
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+ | If you go to their site, you will find a number of systems which you can configure to your specific needs as far as processor speed, memory, storage, etc. | ||
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+ | Based upon what I saw on their web site, their machines use AMD's ryzen processors and rather than Intel. I don't know if this matters to you. Here is a [[https:// | ||
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+ | They System76 machines are not inexpensive, | ||
+ | * RESULTS OF RESEARCH: pending | ||
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+ | ===Marvin Menzin=== | ||
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+ | my wife gets custom laptops from this firm.. no idea whether they do ones without windows | ||
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+ | Eluktronics | ||
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+ | * RESULTS OF RESEARCH: pending | ||
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+ | ===Jon Dreyer=== | ||
+ | A few folks recommended that I try a [[https:// | ||
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+ | Mine's kind of insanely tricked out: 64G RAM, 4T SSD. $2636. | ||
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+ | * RESULTS OF RESEARCH: pending | ||
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+ | ===Rich Moffitt=== | ||
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+ | Keep in mind that OEMs pay between $15 and $50 for the OEM Windows license, so the markup for the consumer is negligible in most cases. Framework looks very good, though it's currently only Intel CPUs and a little more expensive (but upgradeable, | ||
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+ | At the moment, I think AMD Ryzen is top of the heap for non-Apple options (at least until Intel Alder Lake). I bought an ASUS Zephyrus G14 (40GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Ryzen 9 5900HS, RTX 3060) earlier this year in anticipation of chip shortages making a later upgrade potentially impractical. I'm running Fedora 35 on it and the only thing not working in Linux is the fingerprint reader. | ||
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+ | With regard to Linux compatibility, | ||
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+ | -Rich | ||
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