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| - | ====Switching eMail List Server for LCTG==== | + | ~~NOCACHE~~=====Switching eMail List Server for LCTG===== |
| - | Why did we need to do this? | + | |
| + | ===How it used to be, using Yahoo Groups=== | ||
| + | * Yahoo Groups email list | ||
| + | * Yahoo Groups maintained history of email messages | ||
| + | * Yahoo Groups held posted presentation files | ||
| + | * We had thought about switching away, always too much trouble, no real reason to switch | ||
| + | * Steve set up a Wiki page containing presentation videos and materials | ||
| + | |||
| + | ===So why did we need to change away from Yahoo Groups? | ||
| + | * They announced they'd stop providing many services late last year (2019) | ||
| + | * No longer would email list be publicly viewable | ||
| + | * No longer would they store email messages sent to the group | ||
| + | * No longer would they retain presentation files | ||
| + | * In fact, as of now, they have deleted presentation files and email list history | ||
| + | |||
| + | ===What Could We Do?=== | ||
| + | * We formed committee to discuss alternatives | ||
| + | * Groups.io and Steve' | ||
| + | * We perceived costs associated with switching to Groups.io | ||
| + | * No costs other than sweat for switching to Steve' | ||
| + | * Committee decided to give Steve' | ||
| + | |||
| + | ====How was the transfer effected? | ||
| + | |||
| + | ===First...Just-In-Case actions=== | ||
| + | * Steve grabbed a list of Yahoo Group emails and names | ||
| + | * CharlyS grabbed the presentation files | ||
| + | * Steve grabbed the entire group message history | ||
| + | |||
| + | ===Setting Up the Replacement Mail List=== | ||
| + | * Created a domain LCTG.toku.us | ||
| + | * actually it's a Subdomain of toku.us | ||
| + | * Note that '' | ||
| + | * Created an email list, LCTG@lists.toku.us | ||
| + | * Configured the email list settings | ||
| + | * Converted the email addresses CSV file to a list consisting of '' | ||
| + | * Did a bulk add of all emails using this converted file | ||
| + | At this point, the email list was operational.\\ | ||
| + | After it was deployed (used), Steve made tweaks to the configuration to handle issues and improve it | ||
| + | * Removed bounce processing | ||
| + | * Changed email header line to [Lex Computer & Tech Group/ | ||
| + | * Moderators are Steve, CharlyS, and JohnR | ||
| + | * For non-list-members, | ||
| + | * Process/ | ||
| + | |||
| + | ===Preserving Files from Older Presentations=== | ||
| + | * Uploaded presentation files from 2007 to 2018 to the Wiki | ||
| + | * Created a Wiki page, showing all of the files by year, and linking to each | ||
| + | * Linked to this page of older presentation files to the LCTG main page on the Wiki | ||
| + | * Note that recent presentation files are on the Wiki | ||
| + | |||
| + | ===What about Historic email messages?=== | ||
| + | * The messages are in a large (100MB) file | ||
| + | * They are in raw format | ||
| + | * They need processing before they can be easily read and searched | ||
| + | * See an extract below | ||
| + | * For now, we are not doing anything with these | ||
| + | * If you would like to help process the messages to something useful, let me know (and thanks!) | ||
| + | * But is it worthwhile? | ||
| + | * | ||
| + | ===LCTG Information Page -- the Wiki http:// | ||
| + | * Nearly 2 years ago, Steve created a Wiki page holding information: | ||
| + | * About the computer group (LCTG) | ||
| + | * Upcoming meetings | ||
| + | * Past meetings with link to video recording and presentation slides and other materials | ||
| + | * Over time he has enhanced this Wiki: | ||
| + | * Adding info on how to join the group | ||
| + | * How to see past email messages | ||
| + | * How to access past presentations | ||
| + | |||
| + | =====Using the New Technology===== | ||
| Using the current (new) system | Using the current (new) system | ||
| - | | + | |
| - | - Sign up for the email list | + | |
| - | | + | * Reply to messages -- go to sender of message only |
| - | | + | * Reply to message going to everyone -- Reply All |
| - | - get your list password | + | * View message archives -- [[http:// |
| - | | + | * Sign up for the email list -- send email to '' |
| - | | + | * your full name |
| - | - other settings | + | * town where you live |
| - | | + | * brief intro and why you're interested in the group, and |
| + | * topics you might present to the group | ||
| + | | ||
| + | | ||
| + | | ||
| + | * For example: http:// | ||
| + | * On this, your membership page, you can | ||
| + | * get your list password | ||
| + | * change your list password | ||
| + | * change your email address | ||
| + | | ||
| + | * turn on/off message delivery | ||
| + | * get an acknowledgement when you send to the list | ||
| + | | ||
| - | Behind | + | ====Behind The Curtains==== |
| - | - The process I followed for getting the email list from Yahoo to Mailman | + | |
| - | - How to manage the Mailman-based list (the administrative pages, technical details) | + | |
| - | - The process Charly and I followed to get all of the files from Yahoo | + | |
| - | - What I did to put the files on the Wiki so you can see them all in one place | + | |
| - | - Maybe look at older files, 2011 and earlier, and identify which should be added to the new system | + | ===The email list CSV format (names changed but format retained)=== |
| + | < | ||
| + | " | ||
| + | johndoe, | ||
| + | Albert Einstein,SuperWhiz@gmail.com, | ||
| + | </ | ||
| + | What it was changed to for entry to the new system | ||
| + | < | ||
| + | johndoe < | ||
| + | Albert Einstein < | ||
| + | </ | ||
| - | ===Opening PDFs=== | + | ===Wiki page extract=== |
| - | From Gary Patrick | + | < |
| + | ^ Date^ Topic^ | ||
| + | |Jan 1, 2020|//New Year's Day -- no meeting//\\ Your homework this week is to pray (to whichever deity you prefer) for health, wealth, and happiness in the new year.| | ||
| + | |Jan 8, 2020| **Ig Nobel 2019 Awards** //awards for dubious inventions// | ||
| + | </ | ||
| + | |||
| + | ===How Mailman is Administered? | ||
| + | * General Options | ||
| + | * Group name, administrators, | ||
| + | * Membership management | ||
| + | * List management (unsubscribe, | ||
| + | * Subscribing, | ||
| + | * Archiving options (they are archived, available only to members, new volume each month) | ||
| + | |||
| + | ====Opening PDFs==== | ||
| + | A How-To, from Gary Patrick | ||
| * Click on the 3-dot " | * Click on the 3-dot " | ||
| * Select " | * Select " | ||
| * In " | * In " | ||
| * Slide the " | * Slide the " | ||
| + | |||
| + | ====Extract from messages archive, 101.1MB total==== | ||
| + | //This shows that the archive isn't really useful as it stands.// | ||
| + | < | ||
| + | From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 | ||
| + | X-Yahoo-Msgnum: | ||
| + | Return-Path: | ||
| + | X-Sender: jeplewis@yahoo.com | ||
| + | X-Apparently-To: | ||
| + | Received: (qmail 85934 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2007 21:42:57 -0000 | ||
| + | Received: from unknown (66.218.66.72) | ||
| + | by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Sep 2007 21:42:57 -0000 | ||
| + | Received: from unknown (HELO n10b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.104) | ||
| + | by mta14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2007 21:42:57 -0000 | ||
| + | Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n10.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2007 21:41:51 -0000 | ||
| + | Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2007 21:41:51 -0000 | ||
| + | Received: from [66.218.66.80] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2007 21:41:51 -0000 | ||
| + | Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:41:50 -0000 | ||
| + | To: LexingtonComputerGroup@yahoogroups.com | ||
| + | Message-ID: < | ||
| + | User-Agent: eGroups-EW/ | ||
| + | MIME-Version: | ||
| + | Content-Type: | ||
| + | X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster | ||
| + | X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: | ||
| + | X-eGroups-Msg-Info: | ||
| + | From: " | ||
| + | Subject: Proposed List of Topics for Presentations 2007/2008 | ||
| + | X-Yahoo-Group-Post: | ||
| + | X-Yahoo-Profile: | ||
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| + | |||
| + | --2-2537035772-2107687812=: | ||
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| + | Introduction: | ||
| + | sugge= | ||
| + | sted topics for possible presentations for the 2007/2008 season. | ||
| + | The list w= | ||
| + | as gathered during the first meeting of the season held on | ||
| + | Wednesday 5th Se= | ||
| + | ptember 2007 | ||
| + | Meeing Chaired by Shep | ||
| + | |||
| + | Topics For Future Meeings (Not e= | ||
| + | dited =96 not formatted) | ||
| + | 5th September 2007 | ||
| + | |||
| + | General Refresher - Wind= | ||
| + | ows XP - basics | ||
| + | |||
| + | Spread sheets | ||
| + | |||
| + | Photography | ||
| + | Editing Pictures | ||
| + | Picasa = | ||
| + | / Web Albums - (Volunteer - Paul) | ||
| + | |||
| + | Opening the Calculator - Od= | ||
| + | ds and Ends on computer use | ||
| + | Email - send an article via email | ||
| + | Problems in o= | ||
| + | pening attachments | ||
| + | |||
| + | How to use your browser - Internet Explorer and Firefox= | ||
| + | - how to setup | ||
| + | and use | ||
| + | |||
| + | Searching the web / Get reviews on computer-relate= | ||
| + | d equipment - Try PC | ||
| + | World | ||
| + | |||
| + | How to replace your computer - when the evil da= | ||
| + | y comes and your present | ||
| + | computer dies. | ||
| + | Should you opt for Windows XP or Wi= | ||
| + | ndows Vista? | ||
| + | |||
| + | Intro to Vista | ||
| + | |||
| + | How to move from Windows XP to the Apple Mac = | ||
| + | (two ways) | ||
| + | |||
| + | Computer Security - HowTo (Volunteer - Paul) | ||
| + | Spyware/ Adware/ = | ||
| + | Browser Hijacker / Key Logger | ||
| + | Anti-virus Anti-Spyware | ||
| + | |||
| + | General Interest | ||
| + | iTu= | ||
| + | nes - | ||
| + | |||
| + | Blogs - what are they | ||
| + | |||
| + | Stock Market - | ||
| + | |||
| + | Digital Camers - how to use /= | ||
| + | How to choose one | ||
| + | |||
| + | YouTube How to | ||
| + | |||
| + | Google Maps / Satelite view / pull your= | ||
| + | route away from the Google route | ||
| + | |||
| + | Saving your precious data Backups | ||
| + | |||
| + | Reco= | ||
| + | rding on to CD-ROM and DVD | ||
| + | |||
| + | Compiled by Paul Lewis | ||
| + | All complaints, suggesti= | ||
| + | ons, comments additions, should be addressed to | ||
| + | Paul | ||
| + | PS. The next meeting w= | ||
| + | ill be on 19th September 2007 | ||
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| + | Introduction: | ||
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| + | o & | ||
| + | s -& | ||
| + | (Volunteer - Paul)< | ||
| + | computer use < | ||
| + | ttachments< | ||
| + | how to setup and use < | ||
| + | elated equipment - Try PC World< | ||
| + | the evil day comes and your present computer dies.< | ||
| + | ndows XP or Windows Vista?< | ||
| + | ndows XP to the Apple Mac (two ways)< | ||
| + | | ||
| + | ti-virus Anti-Spyware< | ||
| + | hat are they < | ||
| + | ow to choose one< | ||
| + | / pull your route away from the Google route< | ||
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| + | Paul Lewis< | ||
| + | dressed to Paul < | ||
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| + | From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010 | ||
| + | X-Yahoo-Msgnum: | ||
| + | Return-Path: | ||
| + | </ | ||
| + | etc | ||
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