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--- switching_email_list_server_for_lctg [2020.01.12 13:37] – Steve Isenberg
+++ switching_email_list_server_for_lctg [2020.01.14 08:07] – Steve Isenberg
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-=====Switching eMail List Server for LCTG=====
+~~NOCACHE~~=====Switching eMail List Server for LCTG=====
 ===How it used to be, using Yahoo Groups===
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   * Yahoo Groups maintained history of email messages
   * Yahoo Groups held posted presentation files
+  * We had thought about switching away, always too much trouble, no real reason to switch
+  * Steve set up a Wiki page containing presentation videos and materials
 ===So why did we need to change away from Yahoo Groups?===
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   * Note that recent presentation files are on the Wiki
+===What about Historic email messages?===
+  * The messages are in a large (100MB) file
+  * They are in raw format
+  * They need processing before they can be easily read and searched
+  * See an extract below
+  * For now, we are not doing anything with these
+  * If you would like to help process the messages to something useful, let me know (and thanks!)
+  * But is it worthwhile?  Is there sufficient benefit?
+  *
 ===LCTG Information Page -- the Wiki http://LCTG.toku.us===
   * Nearly 2 years ago, Steve created a Wiki page holding information:
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 Using the current (new) system
   * Email list
-    * Send to the list -- send email (from a subscribed email address) to LCTG@toku.us or LCTG@lists.toku.us
+    * Send to the list -- send email (from a subscribed email address) to ''LCTG@toku.us'' or ''LCTG@lists.toku.us''
     * Reply to messages -- go to sender of message only
     * Reply to message going to everyone -- Reply All
     * View message archives -- [[http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us]]
-    * Sign up for the email list -- send email to LCTG-subscribe@toku.us with your full name, town where you live, brief intro and why you're interested in the group, and topics you might present to the group
+    * Sign up for the email list -- send email to ''LCTG-subscribe@toku.us'' (this can be you if you're not on the list, or a friend) with
-    * Get off the email list -- send email to LCTG-unsubscribe@toku.us from the email account you want to unsubscribe
+      * your full name
+      * town where you live
+      * brief intro and why you're interested in the group, and
+      * topics you might present to the group
+    * Get off the email list -- send email to ''LCTG-unsubscribe@toku.us'' from the email account you want to unsubscribe
     * Change your subscription
       * see link to your list options, at bottom of emails sent to you
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 ====Behind The Curtains====
-  * Want to see how Mailman is set up for our group?
-  * Want to see how the Wiki page is set up?
-The email list CSV format (names changed but format retained):
+===The email list CSV format (names changed but format retained)===
 <code>
 "Display Name",Email,Status,Delivery,Posting,Joined
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 </code>
+===Wiki page extract===
+<code>
+^ Date^ Topic^
+|Jan 1, 2020|//New Year's Day -- no meeting//\\ Your homework this week is to pray (to whichever deity you prefer) for health, wealth, and happiness in the new year.|
+|Jan 8, 2020| **Ig Nobel 2019 Awards** //awards for dubious inventions// (Peter Albin)  [[https://youtu.be/mfzs8ZIPVIA|presentation]] [[https://www.improbable.com/}|link to Improbable Research page]]|
+</code>
+===How Mailman is Administered?===
+  * General Options
+    * Group name, administrators, descriptions of group, etc
+  * Membership management
+    * List management (unsubscribe, set moderation, don't sent messages to, etc)
+    * Subscribing, Removing, and changing email address
+  * Archiving options (they are archived, available only to members, new volume each month)
 ====Opening PDFs====
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   * In "Privacy and Security," scroll down to and click on "PDF documents."
   * Slide the "Download PDF files . . " button to "Off."
+====Extract from messages archive, 101.1MB total====
+//This shows that the archive isn't really useful as it stands.//
+<code>
+From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010
+X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 1
+Return-Path: <jeplewis@yahoo.com>
+X-Sender: jeplewis@yahoo.com
+X-Apparently-To: LexingtonComputerGroup@yahoogroups.com
+Received: (qmail 85934 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2007 21:42:57 -0000
+Received: from unknown (66.218.66.72)
+  by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Sep 2007 21:42:57 -0000
+Received: from unknown (HELO n10b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.104)
+  by mta14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2007 21:42:57 -0000
+Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n10.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2007 21:41:51 -0000
+Received: from [66.218.69.2] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2007 21:41:51 -0000
+Received: from [66.218.66.80] by t2.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2007 21:41:51 -0000
+Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:41:50 -0000
+To: LexingtonComputerGroup@yahoogroups.com
+Message-ID: <fbn7qu+sush@eGroups.com>
+User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82
+MIME-Version: 1.0
+Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="2-2537035772-2107687812=:0"
+X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster
+X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose
+X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0
+From: "jeplewis" <jeplewis@yahoo.com>
+Subject: Proposed List of Topics for Presentations 2007/2008
+X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=118236784; y=xpShhNfnSYE26-Qqx7U8MFn2GMM_VanruiZBq2j2QPLrw9o
+X-Yahoo-Profile: jeplewis
+--2-2537035772-2107687812=:0
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
+Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+Introduction: In response to requests from members, this is a list of
+sugge=
+sted topics for possible presentations for the 2007/2008 season.
+The list w=
+as gathered during the first meeting of the season held on
+Wednesday 5th Se=
+ptember 2007
+Meeing Chaired by Shep
+      Topics For Future Meeings (Not e=
+dited =96 not formatted)
+th September 2007
+General Refresher - Wind=
+ows XP - basics
+Spread sheets  HowTo
+Photography
+Editing Pictures
+Picasa =
+/ Web Albums -              (Volunteer - Paul)
+Opening the Calculator - Od=
+ds and Ends on computer use
+Email - send an article via email
+Problems in o=
+pening attachments
+How to use your browser - Internet Explorer and Firefox=
+ - how to setup
+and use
+Searching the web / Get reviews on computer-relate=
+d equipment - Try PC
+World
+How to replace your computer - when the evil da=
+y comes and your present
+computer dies.
+Should you opt for Windows XP or Wi=
+ndows Vista?
+Intro to Vista
+How to move from Windows XP to the Apple Mac =
+(two ways)
+Computer Security - HowTo  (Volunteer - Paul)
+Spyware/ Adware/ =
+Browser Hijacker / Key Logger
+Anti-virus Anti-Spyware
+General Interest
+iTu=
+nes -
+Blogs - what are they
+Stock Market -
+Digital Camers - how to use /=
+ How to choose one
+YouTube How to
+Google Maps / Satelite view / pull your=
+ route away from the Google route
+Saving your precious data  Backups
+Reco=
+rding on to CD-ROM and DVD
+Compiled by Paul Lewis
+All complaints, suggesti=
+ons, comments additions, should be addressed to
+Paul
+PS. The next meeting w=
+ill be on 19th September 2007
+--2-2537035772-2107687812=:0
+Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
+Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+Introduction: In response to requests from members, this is a list of sugge=
+sted topics for possible presentations for the 2007/2008 season. <br>The li=
+st was gathered during the first meeting of the season held on Wednesday 5t=
+h September 2007 <br>Meeing Chaired by Shep<br><br><div align=3D"center"><b=
+>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Topics For Future Meeings (Not edited =96 not for=
+matted)</b><br><b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5th September 2007</b><br></div>=
+<br>General Refresher - Windows XP - basics<br><br>Spread sheets&nbsp; HowT=
+o&nbsp; &nbsp;<br><br>Photography<br>Editing Pictures<br>Picasa / Web Album=
+s -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
+&nbsp; (Volunteer - Paul)<br><br>Opening the Calculator - Odds and Ends on =
+computer use <br>Email - send an article via email<br>Problems in opening a=
+ttachments<br><br>How to use your browser - Internet Explorer and Firefox -=
+ how to setup and use <br><br>Searching the web / Get reviews on computer-r=
+elated equipment - Try PC World<br><br>How to replace your computer - when =
+the evil day comes and your present computer dies.<br>Should you opt for Wi=
+ndows XP or Windows Vista?<br><br>Intro to Vista<br><br>How to move from Wi=
+ndows XP to the Apple Mac (two ways)<br><br>Computer Security - HowTo&nbsp;=
+ (Volunteer - Paul)<br>Spyware/ Adware/ Browser Hijacker / Key Logger<br>An=
+ti-virus Anti-Spyware<br><br>General Interest<br>iTunes - <br><br>Blogs - w=
+hat are they <br><br>Stock Market - <br><br>Digital Camers - how to use / H=
+ow to choose one<br><br>YouTube How to <br><br>Google Maps / Satelite view =
+/ pull your route away from the Google route<br><br>Saving your precious da=
+ta&nbsp; Backups<br><br>Recording on to CD-ROM and DVD <br><br>Compiled by =
+Paul Lewis<br>All complaints, suggestions, comments additions, should be ad=
+dressed to Paul <br>PS. The next meeting will be on 19th September 2007<br>=
+<br><br><br><br><br>
+--2-2537035772-2107687812=:0--
+From DummyAddressAndDate Thu Sep 16 11:42:17 2010
+X-Yahoo-Msgnum: 22
+Return-Path: <paul@computerhomehelp.com>
+</code>
+etc
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