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switching_email_list_server_for_lctg [2020.01.14 08:42] Steve Isenbergswitching_email_list_server_for_lctg [2021.12.22 10:51] (current) – external edit 127.0.0.1
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 ===What Could We Do?=== ===What Could We Do?===
-When we learned this:+When we learned this what YahooGroups was planning...
   * We formed committee to discuss alternatives   * We formed committee to discuss alternatives
   * Groups.io and Steve's Mailman service & Wiki were considered   * Groups.io and Steve's Mailman service & Wiki were considered
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 ====How was the transfer effected?==== ====How was the transfer effected?====
-Protect the past and set up the future+Protect the past and set up for the future
  
 ===First...Just-In-Case actions=== ===First...Just-In-Case actions===
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     * Digest - some members had daily digests of messages on YahooGroup, set this for them on Mailman     * Digest - some members had daily digests of messages on YahooGroup, set this for them on Mailman
   * Did a bulk add of all emails into Mailman using this converted file   * Did a bulk add of all emails into Mailman using this converted file
-At this point, the email list was operational.\\  +At this point, the email list was operational. 
-After it was deployed (put into operation), Steve made tweaks to the configuration to handle issues and improve it, for example:+ 
 +===Tweak it===  
 +After it was deployed (put into operation), Steve made tweaks (fixes, improvements) to the configuration, for example:
   * Remove/eliminate bounce processing   * Remove/eliminate bounce processing
   * Changed email header line to [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] (from [LCTG])   * Changed email header line to [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] (from [LCTG])
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 ===Posted Files from Older Presentations=== ===Posted Files from Older Presentations===
-We had a directory with zillions of files from presentations, need to make available somehow+We had a directory with zillions (figuratively) of files from presentations, want to make 'em available somehow 
 +  * Wanted ease of use to see what's there and access stuff you want
   * Decided to put these files in the Wiki   * Decided to put these files in the Wiki
 +    * decided against FTP server
 +    * decided against using cloud storage e.g., Google, Dropbox
   * Uploaded presentation files from 2007 to 2018 to the Wiki   * Uploaded presentation files from 2007 to 2018 to the Wiki
-  * Created a Wiki page, showing all of the files by year, and linking to each so you can view them +  * Created a Wiki page that... 
-  * Linked to this page of older presentation files to the LCTG main page on the Wiki +    * shows all of the files by year 
-  * Note that recent presentation files are on the Wiki and not on this "older files" page+    * links to each so you can view or download them by clicking 
 +  * Linked to this page to the LCTG main page on the Wiki 
 +  * //Note that recent presentation files are on the Wiki and not on this "older files" page//
  
-===What about Historic email messages?=== +===What About the Email Message Archive?=== 
-  * We have a large file holding old email list messages +  * We have a large file holding old email list messages (100MB+
-  * The messages are in a large (100MB) file +  * Messages are in a raw format, hard to read by most humans 
-  * They are in a raw format, hard to read by most humans +  * Message file needs processing before you can search and read messages (unless you are a Super Whiz) 
-  * They need processing before they can be easily read and searched +  * (See an extract below) 
-  * See an extract below +  * We are not doing anything with these for now 
-  * For now, we are not doing anything with these +  * If you would like a copy of this message archive, let me know 
-  * If you would like to help process the messages to something useful, let me know (and thanks!)+  * If you would like to help process the messages or extract useful ones, let me know
   * But is it worthwhile?  Is there sufficient benefit?   * But is it worthwhile?  Is there sufficient benefit?
  
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   * Nearly 2 years ago, Steve created a Wiki page holding information:   * Nearly 2 years ago, Steve created a Wiki page holding information:
     * About the computer group (LCTG)     * About the computer group (LCTG)
-    * Upcoming meetings +    * About upcoming meetings 
-    * Past meetings with link to video recording and presentation slides and other materials+    * About past meetings with link to video recording and presentation slides and other materials
   * Over time he has enhanced this Wiki:   * Over time he has enhanced this Wiki:
     * Adding info on how to join the group     * Adding info on how to join the group
-    * How to see past email messages+    * How to see past email messages (Mailman system)
     * How to access past presentations     * How to access past presentations
  
 =====Using the New Technology===== =====Using the New Technology=====
-Using the current (new) system; you'll find the links here at the bottom of every email you get from the list.  +Using the current (new) system; you'll find the links here at the bottom of every email you get from the list. 
-  * __Email list__ +===Email list=== 
-    * Send to the list -- send email (from a subscribed email address) to ''LCTG@toku.us'' or ''LCTG@lists.toku.us'' +  * Send to the list -- send email (from a subscribed email address) to ''LCTG@toku.us'' or ''LCTG@lists.toku.us'' 
-      * //Sends from non-subscribed email are Moderated// +    * //Sends from non-subscribed email are Moderated// 
-    * Reply to messages -- go to sender of message only +  * Reply to messages -- go to sender of message only 
-    * Reply to message going to everyone -- Reply All +  * Reply to message going to everyone -- Reply All 
-    * View message archives -- go to [[http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us]]  +  * View message archives -- go to [[http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us]]  
-    * Sign up for the email list -- send email to ''LCTG-subscribe@toku.us'' (this can be you if you're not on the list, or a friend) and include  +  * Sign up for the email list -- send email to ''LCTG-subscribe@toku.us'' (this can be you if you're not on the list, or a friend) and include  
-      * your full name +    * your full name 
-      * town where you live +    * town where you live 
-      * brief intro and why you're interested in the group, and +    * brief intro and why you're interested in the group, and 
-      * topics you might present to the group +    * topics you might present to the group 
-    * Get off the email list -- send email to ''LCTG-unsubscribe@toku.us'' from the email account you want to unsubscribe +  * Get off the email list -- send email to ''LCTG-unsubscribe@toku.us'' from the email account you want to unsubscribe 
-    * Change your subscription +  * Change your subscription 
-      * see the link to see/change your list options, at the bottom of emails sent to you +    * see the link to see/change your list options, at the bottom of emails sent to you 
-      * For example: http://lists.toku.us/options.cgi/lctg-toku.us/SuperWhiz@gmail.com (if you are subscribed as SuperWhiz@gmail.com)  +    * For example: http://lists.toku.us/options.cgi/lctg-toku.us/SuperWhiz@gmail.com (if you are subscribed as SuperWhiz@gmail.com)  
-      * On this, your membership (subscription options) page, you can +    * On this, your membership (subscription options) page, you can 
-        * get your list password sent to you +      * get your list password sent to you 
-        * change your list password +      * change your list password 
-        * change your email address +      * change your email address 
-        * turn on/off batch (digest) mode +      * turn on/off batch (digest) mode 
-        * turn on/off message delivery +      * turn on/off message delivery 
-        * get an acknowledgement whenever you send to the list +      * get an acknowledgement whenever you send to the list 
-  * __Presentation files__ -- [[https://wiki.toku.us/doku.php?id=lctgolderfiles]]+===Presentation files=== 
 +  * [[https://wiki.toku.us/doku.php?id=lctgolderfiles]]
  
 ====Behind The Curtains==== ====Behind The Curtains====
 //Some more technical information for those with inquiring minds// //Some more technical information for those with inquiring minds//
-===The email list CSV format (example)===+===The email list CSV format (example) received from YahooGroups===
 <code> <code>
 "Display Name",Email,Status,Delivery,Posting,Joined "Display Name",Email,Status,Delivery,Posting,Joined
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 After the email addresses were read into Mailman, Steve manually changed subscriptions for those banned and those getting a daily digest. After the email addresses were read into Mailman, Steve manually changed subscriptions for those banned and those getting a daily digest.
 ===Wiki page extract=== ===Wiki page extract===
 +Here's what part of the LCTG Wiki page looks like (the table holding past and upcoming meetings)
 <code> <code>
 ^ Date^ Topic^ ^ Date^ Topic^
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 ===How Mailman is Administered?=== ===How Mailman is Administered?===
-User interface provides many pages grouped by function+The list administrator can make changes to the way the list operates and membership data.  The user interface provides many pages grouped by function:
   * General Options   * General Options
-    * See/change Group name, administrators, Moderators, descriptions of group, etc+    * See/change Group name, Administrators, Moderators, Descriptions of group, [ ] message tag, etc
   * Membership management   * Membership management
-    * List management (manually unsubscribe, set moderation, don't sent messages to, etc, for members) +    * List management (manually unsubscribe, set moderation, don't sent messages to, etc, for specific members) 
-    * Subscribing, Removing, and changing email address +    * Subscribing and removing members 
-  * Archiving options (they are archived, available only to members, new volume each month)+  * Archiving options (our messages are archived, available only to members, creating a new volume of messages every month)
  
 ====Opening PDFs==== ====Opening PDFs====
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