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--- buy_laptop_sans_windows [2021.12.04 18:42] – Steve Isenberg
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 =====Can you buy a laptop and pay less if it doesn't have Windows?=====
+The goal is to buy a laptop that is powerful enough to perform video editing.  Without MS Windows if that can save money.
+Target Specs
+|CPU|Intel i7 or AMD|
+|Memory|16GB|
+|Graphics card|
+|Storage|512GB SSD|
+|Display|FHD 1920x1080|
+|OP System|None (plan to install Linux)|
+|Price|Under $1000 actually closer to $600|
+|System|CPU|Memory|Graphics\\ Card|Disk\\ Storage|Display\\ Res|Op Sys|Cost|
+|Dell XPS 13\\ [[https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/new-xps-13-developer-edition/spd/xps-13-9310-laptop/ctox139w10p2c3000u|link]]|Intel i7-1195G7|16GB 4267MHz|Intel Iris Xe|512GB SSD|OLED 3456x2160|Ubuntu 20.04\\ Win 11 Home -$60|$1,859\\ 32GB +$150|
+|Microcenter\\ You Build Tower|i7-11700\\ 2.5GHz 8 Core|16GB|GTX-1650TUF 4GB|512GB SSD|FHD ext monitor|None|$1016.90|
+|NUC Kits (from Intel)| not sold to individuals? Prices don't include memory etc and for i7 start at $629|||||||
+|Chromebook repurposed|
+|Dell Alienware|Intel i7-11800H|16GB 3200MHz|Nvidia RTX 3060\\ 6GB GDDR6 Nvidia|512GB SSD|15.6" FHD|Windows 11 Home|$1729.99|
+|EmperorLinux.com|Prices start $1800, $2500 for 16GB 512GB(Toucan T470)|||||||
+|[[https://system 76.com|System 76]]|Ryzen 7 5700U 4.3GHz\\ Pangolin|16GB 3200MHz| |500GB SSD 3.5/3.2GB/s|?|Pop! 20.04LTS\\ or Ubuntu 20.04 LTS|$1436|
+|[[https://www.linuxcertified.com/|Linux Certified]]\\ Z1|Intel i7-1165G7|16GB|?|500GB SSD|14.1" res?|Ubuntu or Mint|$1554|
+|Costco|Intel i7-1195G7|16GB|Iris Xe|512GB SSD|15.6" FHD\\ touchscreen|Windows 11 Home|$900|
+|[[https://slickdeals.net/f/15481000-lenovo-yoga-6-2-in-1-laptop-ryzen-7-5700u-13-3-1080p-16gb-ddr4-512gb-ssd-750-free-shipping?src=fa-3a072d928f1a49eb842332d4a6b87622|eBay via Slickdeals]]|Lenovo Yoga\\ Ryzen 7 5700U 2GHz|16GB|AMD Radeon|512GB SSD|13.3" FHD|Win 11 Home|$750 free shipping|
+=====responses summarized being used for above research=====
 ===David Lees===
 Dell has sold Linux laptops for a long time.  For example they offer Ubuntu distribution on many of their machines as an explicitly Windows alternative.  For example: [[https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/new-xps-13-developer-edition/spd/xps-13-9310-laptop/ctox139w10p2c3000u]]
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 Or maybe not.
+  * RESULTS OF RESEARCH: pending
+I just [20211204] talked to Liz deMarco who used to have a pretty nice Linux laptop called "pangolin" which she bought specifically as a Linux machine.
+She told me it came from [[https://system76.com]]
+If you go to their site, you will find a number of systems which you can configure to your specific needs as far as processor speed, memory, storage, etc.
+Based upon what I saw on their web site, their machines use AMD's ryzen processors and rather than Intel. I don't know if this matters to you. Here is a [[https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-7-5800x-vs-intel-core-i7-11700k|comparison of the ryzen vs the Intel I7]].
+They System76 machines are not inexpensive, but she says their quality is excellent and the company specifically works with people wanting a Linux based product.
   * RESULTS OF RESEARCH: pending