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Switching eMail List Server for LCTG

How it used to be, using Yahoo Groups

  • Yahoo Groups email list
  • Yahoo Groups maintained history of email messages
  • Yahoo Groups held posted presentation files

So why did we need to change away from Yahoo Groups?

  • They announced they'd stop providing many services late last year (2019)
  • No longer would email list be publicly viewable
  • No longer would they store email messages sent to the group
  • No longer would they retain presentation files
  • In fact, as of now, they have deleted presentation files and email list history

What Could We Do?

  • We formed committee to discuss alternatives
  • Groups.io and Steve's Mailman service & Wiki were considered
  • We perceived costs associated with switching to Groups.io
  • No costs other than sweat for switching to Steve's Mailman and Wiki, and Steve was willing to put in the sweat
  • Committee decided to give Steve's option a try, noting that we could switch to another option later, if it didn't work out

How was the transfer effected?

First...Just-In-Case actions

  • Steve grabbed a list of Yahoo Group emails and names
  • CharlyS grabbed the presentation files
  • Steve grabbed the entire group message history

Setting Up the Replacement Mail List

  • Created a domain LCTG.toku.us
    • actually it's a Subdomain of toku.us
    • Note that toku.us is a domain owned by Steve, toku is short for “TO Keep Up” (maybe?)
  • Created an email list, LCTG@lists.toku.us
  • Configured the email list settings
  • Converted the email addresses CSV file to a list consisting of name person@email.com
  • Did a bulk add of all the emails

At this point, the email list was operational.
As it was used, Steve made tweaks to the configuration

  • Removed bounce processing
  • Changed email header line to [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG]
  • Moderators are Steve, CharlyS, and JohnR
    • For non-list-members, posts must be moderated (prevents spam)
    • Process/approve (or not) requests to join the list

Preserving Files from Older Presentations

  • Uploaded presentation files from 2007 to 2018 to the Wiki
  • Created a Wiki page, showing all of the files by year, and linking to each
  • Linked to this page of older presentation files to the LCTG main page on the Wiki
  • Note that recent presentation files are on the Wiki

LCTG Information Page -- the Wiki http://LCTG.toku.us

  • Nearly 2 years ago, Steve created a Wiki page holding information:
    • About the computer group (LCTG)
    • Upcoming meetings
    • Past meetings with link to video recording and presentation slides and other materials
  • Over time he has enhanced this Wiki:
    • Adding info on how to join the group
    • How to see past email messages
    • How to access past presentations

Why did we need to do this?

Using the current (new) system

  1. Email list
    1. Sign up for the email list
    2. Get off the email list
    3. Change your subscription
      1. get your list password
      2. change your email address
      3. turn on/off batch mode
      4. other settings you can control)
  2. Presentation files

Behind the curtain

  1. The process I followed for getting the email list from Yahoo to Mailman
  2. How to manage the Mailman-based list (the administrative pages, technical details)
  3. The process Charly and I followed to get all of the files from Yahoo
  4. What I did to put the files on the Wiki so you can see them all in one place
  1. Maybe look at older files, 2011 and earlier, and identify which should be added to the new system

Opening PDFs

From Gary Patrick

  • Click on the 3-dot “Customize Chrome” icon near the upper right corner of any Chrome page.
  • Select “settings” and open the “Advanced” portion at the very bottom.
  • In “Privacy and Security,” scroll down to and click on “PDF documents.”
  • Slide the “Download PDF files . . ” button to “Off.”
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