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Meeting Summary for Lex Computer Group's January 22, 2024 meeting

Quick recap

Ted discussed the challenges and potential of fusion energy, highlighting the issue of tritium and the ongoing experiments at the Jet and MIT Libra facilities. He also discussed the history of atomic theory, the experiment conducted by Geiger and Marsden, and the development of Rutherford's model of the atom. The conversation ended with discussions on the progress of fusion experiments, the challenges and potential solutions related to the use of tritium in fusion reactors, and the potential for smaller, more efficient fusion reactors.

Summary

Fusion Energy Challenges and Potential

Ted discussed the challenges and potential of fusion energy. He highlighted the issue of tritium, a key component in fusion reactions, which is currently expensive and difficult to obtain. Ted also discussed the potential of fusion energy to meet the increasing demand for energy, particularly from data centers. He mentioned the ongoing experiments at the Jet and MIT Libra facilities, which aim to understand how to make tritium useful in a lithium-based breeding process. Ted also touched on the history of fusion science, from its philosophical roots in ancient Greece to its modern applications in nuclear science. He concluded by comparing the energy density of fusion reactions to other energy sources, emphasizing its potential.

Atomic Theory and Early Discoveries

Ted discussed the history of atomic theory, starting with Democritus' concept of atoms in the 5th century BCE. He then moved on to the 19th century, where scientists like William Crookes, Conrad Rankin, and Wilhelm Roentgen were experimenting with electricity and vacuum pumps. Roentgen discovered X-rays, which led to the first Nobel Prize in Physics. Henri Becquerel discovered radioactivity in 1896, and Pierre and Marie Curie extracted radium and polonium from uranium ore. Ernest Rutherford separated alpha, beta, and gamma rays using magnets and electric fields. Finally, Rutherford, with Geiger and Marsden, conducted an experiment at Manchester University to validate JJ Thompson's model of the atom, discovering a central positive charge instead of a uniform mass.

Geiger-Marsden Experiment and Rutherford's Model

Ted discussed the experiment conducted by Geiger and Marsden, which involved bombarding gold foil with alpha particles and observing their deflection. He explained that the experiment was challenging due to the low probability of alpha particles being deflected at large angles. Ted also mentioned that the experiment had been repeated with protons and that the results showed a slight deviation from the expected curve. He further discussed Rutherford's model of the atom, which was developed from the experiment, and its subsequent problems. Ted also touched on Rutherford's work at Cambridge University, where he continued his research on bombarding substances with deuterons, and the discovery of neutrons and tritium.

Nobel Prize, Nuclear Binding, and Fusion

Ted discussed the historical significance of the Swedish Academy's speech in 1903, highlighting its modern nature and broad statements that presaged the future. He mentioned the Nobel Prize's unusual consideration for a woman at that time, referring to Madame Curie's work. Ted also discussed the understanding of nuclear binding energy in the early 20th century, the discovery of the neutron by Chadwick, and the transmutation of effects observed with heavy hydrogen. He mentioned Arthur Eddington's speculation on the energy driving the Sun and stars, Cecilia Payne's doctoral thesis on the primary constituent in stars, George Gamow's introduction of the quantum explanation, and Hans Bethe's detailed quantum mechanical explanation for fusion.

Nuclear Fusion and Binding Energy

Ted discussed the concept of binding energy per nucleon and its relation to nuclear fusion. He explained that the highest binding energy is found between iron and nickel, and that adding more particles after this point results in less binding energy. He also discussed the idea of fusion reactions, where particles are combined to form a more tightly bound nucleus, releasing energy in the process. Ted then moved on to discuss the practicality of fusion reactions, highlighting the challenges of overcoming the Coulomb repulsion barrier and the need for extremely high temperatures. He also discussed the concept of Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution and its relation to particle energies in a gas. Ted concluded by discussing the results of the Joint European Torus (JET) experiment, which produced 69 megajoules of fusion energy but required more energy to heat the plasma, resulting in a Q factor of only about 3.

Tritium Production and Management Challenges

Ted discussed the challenges and complexities of tritium production and management, particularly in the context of fusion reactors. He highlighted the need for efficient tritium breeding, the importance of handling tritium carefully due to its radioactive nature, and the potential issues with tritium diffusion into materials. Ted also mentioned ongoing research at MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center and Commonwealth Fusion Systems, focusing on tritium fuel cycle analysis and the Libra experiment. He emphasized the need for a deeper understanding of tritium management to ensure the success of fusion power plants.

Fusion Experiments and Commercial Progress

Ted discussed the progress of fusion experiments, particularly focusing on the FLOI B Mixture and its potential as a coolant for fission reactors. He also mentioned the work being done on spin-polarized hydrogen, which could enhance the fusion cross-section. Ted then shifted the discussion to the D3 machine at General Atomic and the work being done in Seville, Spain. He also touched on the Inflation Reduction Act funding and the revisions to the regulatory environment for fusion. Lastly, Ted highlighted the progress of Commonwealth Fusion's commercial grid-scale fusion power plant and the assembly of the Spark machine.

Tritium Challenges in Fusion Reactors

Ted discussed the challenges and potential solutions related to the use of tritium in fusion reactors. He mentioned that simulations have shown that tritium could be introduced either by puffing extra tritium in or by gradually adding it over time. However, the latter method might consume more tritium in the long run. Ted also explained that the Commonwealth fusion work doesn't have neutral beams, which could be advantageous in some cases. He mentioned that Spark, a reactor currently under construction, will initially operate with high-purity hydrogen and then introduce helium gas before adding tritium. Larry asked about the main questions that need to be answered with Spark, to which Ted responded that Spark will demonstrate the guts of a reactor, but a significant step is converting the core of the reactor into a functioning fusion power plant.

Fusion Energy Progress and Challenges

In the meeting, Ted and audience members discussed the progress and challenges of fusion energy. Ted highlighted the potential of Spark and Arc fusion projects, emphasizing the importance of engineering and economics in addition to physics. Members agreed, noting the difficulty of achieving engineering solutions within the next 10 years. They also discussed the possibility of smaller, more efficient fusion reactors and the potential for mass production. The conversation ended with plans for a future meeting to discuss further developments.

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